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Post by Guest on Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:57 am

The UK Independence party's local election candidate in Rotherham has had close links to the British National party and thinks there are too many Muslims in Britain – but having been alerted to his views and background, the party's central command refused to condemn his remarks.

Caven Vines, 62, used to work closely with the BNP's Rotherham organiser, Marlene Guest, in a campaign group called Council Watch. He has never been a BNP member but spent 2004-2006 as an independent councillor for the Rotherham West ward and is well known locally for his rightwing views.

But his treatment is in stark contrast to Ukip's withdrawal of support for Sue Bowen, a Ukip candidate in Cornwall, after it emerged that she was once a BNP member.

Bowen, a retired sheep farmer from Boscastle in north Cornwall, had been selected to stand in the Tintagel ward on 2 May. She was once a BNP activist and had spoken at a far-right meeting in 2010 which is captured on footage on YouTube.

The party's Cornwall chairman, Tom Hobbs, said he had been placed under pressure by central office to put forward as many candidates as possible as Ukip seeks to capitalise on its 15% showing in national polls.

"The truth is that the party did want us to field as many candidates as we could. It is not easy to get candidates to stand. When you are looking to fill 20 seats in my division, there's a lot to do," he said.

Bowen approached the party, he said, at the end of March and a few days later became a member. He had never met her when she was confirmed as a candidate two weeks ago, he added.

"As soon as I was made aware that she had been a member of the BNP I asked her and she said she had been," said Hobbs. "I told her that her membership of Ukip would be terminated."

A spokesman for Ukip said the party had put pressure on its chairmen to sign up council candidates and conceded that it would have been better if the local party chairman had met Bowen before accepting her nomination.

"Maybe he should have [met her] before she signed as a council candidate. But we do not apologise for putting pressure on our chairmen to sign people up for the good reason that we want Ukip to do well in these elections.

"But we do not accept far-right candidates and in this case we made sure that she could not stand for Ukip," he said.

But in Rotherham, Vines is standing in the Rawmarsh ward in a byelection triggered by the resignation of Labour's Shaun Wright, who became South Yorkshire's police and crime commissioner last year despite his BNP connections. Wright's wife, Lisa, is hoping to keep the seat in the family and is standing for Labour.

Vines, a father of three, kept a less-than-literate blog when campaigning for re-election to the council in 2009. On one post in March that year he mocked "our very own Muslim Lord Amed" – a misspelled reference to Pakistan-born peer Nazir Ahmed, Lord Ahmed of Rotherham since 1998, who had recently received a light jail sentence for a fatal car accident. "If are a Muslim in Britain you can almost do what you want with the good old Labour Governments blessing," he wrote.

Vines also complained that: "Muslims go to war warring [sic] the same cloths as ordinary people who they hide behind they cover their faces, they hide behind women and children they set up rocket launches in school yards they use children to push wheel barrows into crowds and soldiers then detonate it killing innocent people SO WHO ARE THE COWARDS.

"Its about time the Government and the Police stopped pandering to these so called British Muslims and other foreign nationals."

Contacted by the Guardian on Tuesday, Vines stood by the blog. The Rotherham-born engineer said too many Muslims had been allowed into Britain. "When they get here, suddenly – you don't have to be born in this country – you can come here, live here for a while and stand as MPs and that sort of thing. We are giving 'em power which they shouldn't have. We couldn't go to Pakistan and stand as an MP. All I'm saying is we've opened ourselves up to this."

However, when the Guardian asked Nigel Farage's spokesman whether Ukip endorsed Vines's views on Muslims, he said: "I have been instructed not to comment."

Marlene Guest, a pensioner who perennially stands for the BNP in Rotherham, founded local campaigning group Council Watch with Vines over 10 years ago. The pair have now fallen out, and Guest said Vines is "very rightwing, just as rightwing as us".

But Vines insisted his views were not identical to the BNP's. "They say everybody should be scooped up and sent back. I don't say that at all. Basically, I say if you want to come and live in this country, fine. But you follow our rules. We've got us own rules for us own British culture. They want their own laws. I mean they are wanting this sharia law, aren't they?"

Jahangir Akhtar, deputy leader of Rotherham council (Labour), said when he beat Vines in Rotherham West in 2006, Vines wrote a letter to the local paper falsely accusing him of "bussing in Pakistanis" to vote for him. "Round here we say Ukip are just BNP in nicer suits," said Akhtar. "Vines has extreme views more in line with the BNP. It exposes the lie that Ukip are a respectable, non-racist party." Vines admits penning the letter and says Akhtar used "intimidation tactics" to win in 2006 – an accusation Akhtar denies.

http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/news/article/2671/ukip-stands-by-rotherham-local-election-candidate-with-bnp-links


FFS!....Everyone that knows anything about politics knows that UKIP are far right!....All BNP supporters on forums agree with UKIP and the BNP supporters and the UKIP supporters have always been back slapping Laughing

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Re: Another UKIP scandal!

Post by Guest on Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:39 am

....can anyone think of anything worse than a UKIP/Tory coalition affraid

...Thankfully UKIP don't have any members of parliament at this time!

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Post by Snookerballs on Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:44 am

Nigel Farage admits he goes to Lap Dancing Clubs on all his visits to Strasburg !!!! Shocked Shocked
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22280755
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Post by Guest on Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:50 am

Snookerballs wrote:Nigel Farage admits he goes to Lap Dancing Clubs on all his visits to Strasburg !!!! Shocked Shocked
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22280755

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:08 am



A UK Independence Party candidate in East Sussex has denied the holocaust, claiming World War Two was engineered by Zionists hoping to create the state of Israel.

Anna-Marie Crampton is representing the eurosceptic party in Crowborough for the East Sussex County Council elections.

But, with polling day just a week away, groups have reacted angrily after a website entry in her name claimed World War Two was financed by Jewish “banksters” to make the world feel guilty.

A further comment said: “It was thanks to them that six million Jews were murdered in the war along with 26 million Russians.”

Sam Westrop, director of Stand for Peace, a leading Jewish-Muslim interfaith organisation, said: “Time after time, conspiracy and anti-Zionist sentiment is revealed to be nothing more than thinly-veiled anti-Semitism.

“UKIP, to its credit, has expelled extremist and bigoted members in the past.

“They must also expel Anna-Marie Crampton. Such hatred must be fought at all times.”

The comments were made in Ms Crampton’s name on an article titled “Was Pope Benedict fired by the Knights of Malta?” on an external website called Secrets of The Fed.

The entry said: “The Rothschilds are Zionists. There is a difference between Jews and Zionists.

“These psychopaths hide behind and use the Jews.

“It was thanks to them that six million Jews were murdered in the War along with 26 million Russians.”

'Tired of being lied to"

The Facebook account, from which the comments were made, also separately shows pictures of her wearing a party rosette while stood next to UKIP leader Nigel Farage.

Also on the profile, which claims to be verified by Facebook founder Mark Zuckerburg, is the statement: “I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I am a conscious, aware, critical thinker and tired of being lied to. Are you?!”

Despite numerous attempts to contact her, Ms Crampton, of Southview Road, Crowborough, was not available to comment yesterday.

She is standing for the party in the traditionally Conservative area alongside prominent UKIP member Sonia Finch.

A spokesman for UKIP said it would not be appropriate to comment until he had contacted Ms Crampton.

Holocaust denial is a crime in Germany, France, Poland, Switzerland, Belgium, Austria and Lithuania.

http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/news/article/2672/east-sussex-ukip-election-candidate-in-holocaust-storm

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:15 am

philagain wrote:

A UK Independence Party candidate in East Sussex has denied the holocaust, claiming World War Two was engineered by Zionists hoping to create the state of Israel.

Anna-Marie Crampton is representing the eurosceptic party in Crowborough for the East Sussex County Council elections.

But, with polling day just a week away, groups have reacted angrily after a website entry in her name claimed World War Two was financed by Jewish “banksters” to make the world feel guilty.

A further comment said: “It was thanks to them that six million Jews were murdered in the war along with 26 million Russians.”

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YesI agree with most of that.
There is no way 6 million jews were killed.
And the figure has been revisd downward many times from 6 million.
Without Hitler there would be no Israel.
Wall st bankers financed Hitlers broken Germany turning it from a place so broke a loaf cost a van full of money and Germany couldn't buy oil steel coal wheatt bugger all from other countries to almost overnight being able to build motorways and the most advanced and best equiped army Europe had ever seen with aircraft ships planes etc etc.

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:17 am

It's against the law to doubt the Zionists ... you couldn't make shit like that up ... oh they did din't they ....

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:23 am

jackb wrote:
philagain wrote:

A UK Independence Party candidate in East Sussex has denied the holocaust, claiming World War Two was engineered by Zionists hoping to create the state of Israel.

Anna-Marie Crampton is representing the eurosceptic party in Crowborough for the East Sussex County Council elections.

But, with polling day just a week away, groups have reacted angrily after a website entry in her name claimed World War Two was financed by Jewish “banksters” to make the world feel guilty.

A further comment said: “It was thanks to them that six million Jews were murdered in the war along with 26 million Russians.”

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YesI agree with most of that.
There is no way 6 million jews were killed.
And the figure has been revisd downward many times from 6 million.
Without Hitler there would be no Israel.
Wall st bankers financed Hitlers broken Germany turning it from a place so broke a loaf cost a van full of money and Germany couldn't buy oil steel coal wheatt bugger all from other countries to almost overnight being able to build motorways and the most advanced and best equiped army Europe had ever seen with aircraft ships planes etc etc.

....Perhaps the numbers are wrong Dunno ....But it's still true to say that there was a genocide going on during WW2.

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:43 am

There was a genocide of the Jews backed by the Zionists.
None of the rich wealthy banker Jews ever went into camps.
Do a bit of research and see how the Zionists did deals with the Nazis.

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:45 am

Click the link behind any of these pictures and see what the majority of the worlds Jes have to say about Zionism and the state of Israel ... you won't see this or any of these protests on your main stream news of course.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&gs_rn=11&gs_ri=psy-ab&tok=dwPwKTzOWJTcDMb9paGkVg&cp=10&gs_id=fy&xhr=t&q=jews+against+zionism&safe=active&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.45645796,d.d2k&biw=1280&bih=903&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=pc15UZK5BYmp0QXJiIHYAQ

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:50 am

jackb wrote:Click the link behind any of these pictures and see what the majority of the worlds Jes have to say about Zionism and the state of Israel ... you won't see this or any of these protests on your main stream news of course.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&gs_rn=11&gs_ri=psy-ab&tok=dwPwKTzOWJTcDMb9paGkVg&cp=10&gs_id=fy&xhr=t&q=jews+against+zionism&safe=active&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.45645796,d.d2k&biw=1280&bih=903&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=pc15UZK5BYmp0QXJiIHYAQ

....Thanks for the education thumbsup ....Now i never knew that!

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:08 pm

The vast majority of Jews don't and would never live in the Aparthied Nazi state of Israel.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/jews_against_zionism.html


Loads of stuff out there that explodes the myth of the six million ... written by Jews who wer there.
You can challenge the figures and the stories of millions of Russians dieing in that war and and Catholics Brits Yanks Japs etc ... but it's against the law to disagree with Zionism.
How fecking mad and controlling is that?
Truthy is one of the best sources for links to this stuff.
Have a quick shufty of this one ... http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/jews_against_zionism.html

When you start to do a little research about this world you start to discover that everything you thought you knew ... you didn't.
Most history taught in schools is from three quid books.
Most documentaries are made by Zionists and their supporters.
Most of what we were ever taught in the twentieth century turns out to be a crock of shit and it's one of the main reasons that governments want the internet censored ... they lose control of the story ... the myth making ... when Joe Public has acsess to the worlds libraries and peoples.

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:13 pm

By the way Phil ... I hate the BNP and UKIP.
They are no where near as racist and right wing as the Zionists though.

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:32 pm

This is a difficult one for me...The Tony Blair government gave the gay community our equal rights...Let us not forget that before he came to office we had section 28 and not even an equal age of consent and we were all branded criminals if we had sex under the age of consent...It is true to say that a friends partner was arrested because he was 21 and was going out with an 18 year old...The parents had a problem so reported his partner to the police.

....Perhaps we all look towards a personal agenda and it did indeed sicken me that Tony Blair was at Thatchers funeral and seemed to be slurping over her 'legacy'...Which wasn't overall that good at all IMO!

..He was accused of war crimes but he did help to liberate Kosavo!

....The jury is out as far as i'm concerned!

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:38 pm

jackb wrote:By the way Phil ... I hate the BNP and UKIP.
They are no where near as racist and right wing as the Zionists though.

.....Granted...But they don't kill gay people in Israel but they do in Gaza!

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Post by Guest on Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:51 pm

philagain wrote:....can anyone think of anything worse than a UKIP/Tory coalition affraid

...Thankfully UKIP don't have any members of parliament at this time!
That can change overnight, did here. Now we have Neo Nazi thugs in parliament.

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